[RV] I think a lot of people with good ideas, new ideas, original ideas… still are trying to be original, are… are misunderstood. It’s happening all the time. Denise likes to point out that Freud was not a Freudian.

[DSB] Marx was not a Marxist.

[RV] Marx was not a Marxist and I won’t go on about Jesus Christ!  But, anyhow, I think, that’s just inevitable that you are often misunderstood, if you are being complex and contradictory.

[DSB] I find that I… I am misunderstood when I think I’m talking pretty clearly. And yet, I find that people take a wrong meaning, which deals with something they’ve had in their head. So, they have a presumption of what you are and whatever you say it comes out what they thought you were they thought they heard. So, there’s two sides to that situation and a lot of it comes to what they read into us, which might be based on their fears or on to something they’ve heard, or who knows what. And, I think, sometimes I don’t get things out as clearly as I should, but I am puzzled as to where it is I haven’t been clear, because I thought I was being very clear.