Animation... animation as an industry and as an art form, sure. And that's where a man like Oskar Fischinger and Len Lye would be, you know? But in the industry, no one would know them. They would not know who the hell you're talking about if you're talking about Len Lye or Oskar Fischinger. They just don't know because… now we are getting into some very strange terrain, they're really not interested. It's a job. And in the industry, in a studio, where maybe one or two person might know about Len Lye or Oskar Fischinger, but in general, they would not know who the hell you're talking about. So that is the situation. And then when you go to the magazines, the art magazines and you have some of these people in there, the people will just turn that page over because it's not Bobo Canon and it's not Chuck Jones. So they don't function on that terrain. If one out of two in a studio, which had maybe 150 members, or 200, would know who these people are, I would be surprised. But then again, that's part of the… that world. Which is animation at the studio or the animator away from a studio, where he will function as an artist performs his art. An animator in a studio doesn't perform his art because he performs the art of the director. Because he's not going to get any big hoopla, the director's going to get the big hoopla. Not the guy who's working and he's not a director, you see? So that's what the industry's about.