I don't recall [Henri] Matisse's work. I… I recall [Pablo] Picasso had some sets he designed, yeah/ It's funny, I don't recall Matisse at all in that world, that world. But then, on Picasso, they had a lot of books and stuff on Picasso and the ballet, you know, and the design. So that you were able to buy and be aware. But in that world, I never ran into anybody else who come from like a painter, like Picasso. Yeah.

[Q] Picasso and Matisse – was their work an influence on you?

More, more Picasso, you know? But I really can't say that because if you say that, that means that your work would look like that, but I don't think that has ever happened, yet, you know? With my output, you know? Because I'm very aware of that. And although you admire those people and they're very important and it's important for you to know their work, you know? But it's better if it doesn't show in your work. Oh, that's a Picasso, that's a Matisse, you know? Then you… if it's there, then you have a problem, you have a problem.